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It's really hard when you see lies and there's just nothing you can do about it.

My midwife and nurse are both now saying that my nurse turned up my pitocin with permission, but it was verbal permission that I didn't hear. That's a straight out lie. My doula, Shelli, saw her turning the pitocin up, and my midwife hadn't told her to turn it up. Minutes later, my midwife did say to me that she would like to turn it up again, and the nurse laughed and said she had been turning it up all along.

Now my midwife is saying she told her that she should do that, but it's a lie. Lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie lie. Just like it's a lie that the OB didn't swear at me. Just like it's a lie that they changed my sheets right away.

I just received a very detailed letter that basically says "you are a silly girl". Actually, it's two typed pages of justification. What it actually says is "Your recollection of the communication between the nurse and the midwife about increasing the pitocin is correct, however, because you were unable to hear the whole conversation and were not aware of our approved protocol for labor induction, you would not have known that the nurse acted appropriately in this situation. She followed the midwives verbal directions and written pitocin protocol.". SO I guess me saying I did not want any more pitocin for a while, and the midwife agreeing, means NOTHING because the hospital has some policy to cover their asses that says they can do whatever the fuck they like with the drugs once you have an IV.

Obviously when I have my next baby, if it's in hospital, I will need to make my birth plan extremely clear. I do not agree to the hospital's protocol on doing whatever the fuck they like.


It makes me really frustrated, but not surprised, that Paula is saying she verbally gave her the go ahead, when she didn't. She had just come into the room, I believe, when the nurse was doing it. I should have said something right in that second when the nurse was laughing about turning up my pitocin without the midwife's go ahead.


Eventually this will all be a distant memory. They do "hope you will allow us to rebuild your trust in the future". Hah.

The one positive is that they have obviously taken my concerns pretty serious, 5 months later they are still doing inquiries. Too bad they wouldn't eliminate my two thousand dollars or more that I owe the hospital and hospital OBs.

Date: 2010-12-30 07:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pyxiwulf.livejournal.com
LIARS!!!!!

The midwife looked at the nurse and gave the verbal order to increase it and the nurse said, "I already did it. When nobody was looking." and laughed.

Date: 2010-12-30 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybrelly.livejournal.com
YES that's what she said, I knew she laughed and said something about how she had been turning it up already. Fuckers. Her AND the midwife lied.

Date: 2010-12-30 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-elvis.livejournal.com
They are smokescreening you because they are afraid of lawsuits. I'm guessing Shelli would back you up on this if you want to pursue it further.

I recently did a blog post for one of my clients on a study saying hospitals actually LOWER their litigation costs when they acknowledge mistakes and apologize. It seems like this ought to be the standard protocol for people over age eight, right? But they don't do it that way because they think acknowledging a mistake will get them sued. Instead, they clam up and deny any responsibility for anything, thus telling the patient that they're not willing to deal openly and fairly.

Date: 2010-12-30 09:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-elvis.livejournal.com
Then they wonder why they get sued. ARGH.

Date: 2010-12-31 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybrelly.livejournal.com
I have no idea what to do about this.

Date: 2010-12-31 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-elvis.livejournal.com
Well, the question really is, what do you want? I don't think you want money; I think you want them to acknowledge their mistakes/mistreatment of you and freaking apologize. (Which even Reagan would know is the right thing to do.) I don't know how to make them do that. It might be satisfying to write them a letter pointing out that they changed their story and that your doula confirms your version of events. Regardless of what they do, you get your say. You could also send a copy to the state medical licensing board just to scare them.

That said, I agree with others that a free consultation (which ALL of my clients offer; it's part of any reputable trial attorney's job) might help get the bill reduced.

Date: 2010-12-31 04:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] queen-elvis.livejournal.com
Also, you can blacken their name on local parenting websites.

Reading about your experience, and other people's, makes me feel well-armed for when it's my turn to have a baby. I know people will have advice on what they wish they had known.

Date: 2010-12-31 05:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybrelly.livejournal.com
I thought I was so prepared, but was not at all. You have the benefit of knowing the system down here, that will take you far.

Date: 2010-12-31 05:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybrelly.livejournal.com
I wouldn't mind our bill being reduced, but yeah, I would like an apology that wasn't "We're sorry we didn't meet your standards of what you thought you wanted". They have added a few decent apologies, so maybe I need to just take those for what they are worth.

Date: 2010-12-30 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] egg-spirit.livejournal.com
"you are a silly girl"

Yes. A silly girl with access to steel toed boots I'd love to silly-ishly shove up your rear end.

It's funny how people suddenly 're-remember' the facts *after* they realize they're in shit. Poopfaces. Karma requires a wide berth, as long as you are being you and being true you needn't worry too much about the black stains in your life. Karma is like Shout! It gets all the bad stuff out sooner or later ;)

Date: 2010-12-31 05:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybrelly.livejournal.com
No kidding. Sweet Canadian girl that you don't want to cross!

Funny how in their first letter they said the nurse didn't turn up the pitocin, that I was mistaken, but when I said I had three eye witnesses, suddenly she did turn it up but it was okay because of secret hospital rules.

Date: 2010-12-31 03:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] egg-spirit.livejournal.com
Yeah..that's mighty fishy. Oi.
Hopefully through you, they'll realize for the next women they can't be such asses.

Date: 2010-12-31 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybrelly.livejournal.com
that's my biggest goal, that this will help some other woman not get treated the same.

Date: 2010-12-31 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greeneyed-devil.livejournal.com
See if you can find a lawyer who does free consultations. This is bullshit.

Date: 2010-12-31 05:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybrelly.livejournal.com
I wouldn't even know where to begin. I hate liars. Fucking fuckers.
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Date: 2010-12-31 05:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybrelly.livejournal.com
It scares me to even go that route, not sure I'm emotionally ready to fight something like this. I wouldn't even know where to begin!

Date: 2011-01-03 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandi1743.livejournal.com
you start by talking to people in the know...

Date: 2011-01-03 07:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybrelly.livejournal.com
are you in the know? :D

Date: 2011-01-03 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandi1743.livejournal.com
sadly no but there are people other - have you looked for other women that have had bad experiences in your area? What about asking at your local ICAn?

Date: 2011-01-03 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mellybrelly.livejournal.com
I'm going to try to get to the next ICAN meeting, and I'll talk to Jennifer about it. She offered me help in the past.

I'm pissed that even though I started making payments to the hospital, they have started sending things to collections. Feels like insult to injury.

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